Flat tax Smlat tax
To respond to the comments from my recent flat tax post: I agree that spending reform is more important than tax reform, if for no other reason than spending reform would likely engender tax reform. The truth is, the federal government wastes money. But worse than that, the federal government spends too much money, by which I mean the federal government has its fingers in too many pies. Education is a good example. Education has been the responsibility of the state government since, well, since the passage of the Constitution. Gradually, the federal government absorbed authority, notably with the creation of the Department of Education (1980) and more importantly with the passage of the No Child Left Behind Act. Many of us may agree with the provisions of the No Child Left Behind Act, but with the authority the law gives Uncle Sam comes budgetary and spending requirements. Boom, bigger federal budget. Now couple that with a legislative system such as the one we have, one that creates budgets in the way it does (which is to say, one that, for instance, incentivizes pork barrel projects), and you have a recipe for abuse. I recently read an article that unfortunately I can’t get my hands on now in which the author suggested that the best way to argue for federal fiscal reform is to adopt the platform of states’ rights. This platform returns power to the states; state governments are more accountable and have smaller budgets, so the potential for fiscal abuse and misuse is smaller. Meanwhile Anonymous 2 deploys the rhetorical device of hyperbole to drive his point home. I guess it would have been effective if his point had been on target. But he took my anti-flat tax stance as a pro-high tax stance. Regardless of what one thinks of taxes, one must agree with the statements I made: that the flat tax doesn’t actually reform what needs to be reformed (unless what needs to be reformed in the progressiveness of the tax rates), and that the flat tax will increase taxes on the poor. Those two facts are always left out of the discussion of the flat tax and its purported benefits. Furthermore, if you believe, as I do, in the theory of the declining marginal utility of the dollar, then you support, as I do, a progressive tax rate structure. Nowhere did I talk about raising taxes or about the creation of a utopia or even about the evils of capitalism. Indeed, I love the free market. But the sad fact is that we do not live in the free market that Anonymous 2 thinks that we do. Or how can he explain the massive subsidies that farmers and ranchers and steel companies and airlines and the auto industry receive?

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It's your socialist overtone that I was engaging; your idea that anyone who ever achieves more for whatever reason should be required to relinquish the fruits of that achievement at an increasing rate to the state so that it can subsidize those who did not achieve more for whatever reason.
You're correct that we don't live in a perfect free market. However, we do live in a market where one is free to make his or her own decisions, and those decisions can play a large role in determining poverty or prosperity. Should you start a family right out of high school when you're making $6/hr at Wal-Mart? Should you over-extend yourself with an adjustable rate mortgage to buy a house you really can't afford? Should you finance that big screen TV or your new mustang when you really should be saving that money so you don't need exotic financing when you go to purchase a home? Should you think that your specalized factory job could never possibly disappear one day? Should you spend four years of college majoring in French literature when you know you're not going to be getting a job as a French writer or literary critic? If don't think you're cut out for college life, should you be complacent and settle for a lifetime of minimum wage (and subsequent complaining that the wage is not a living wage), or should you perhaps seek some vocational training, or look for a job where you could perhaps partake in an apprenticeship to learn a more valuable skill?
The history of the U.S. is replete with rags-to-riches stories as well as riches-to-rags stories. And yes, there are some times when seemingly poor choices can result in riches and seemingly good ones can still result in poverty. But taken in aggregate, those are the exception and not the rule.
I just think it's a fundamental flaw for a society to say, "Hey, you worked 44 hours when everyone else only worked 40 hours this week. Just for that bad behavior we're going to take an even bigger chunk than usual out of the extra wages you earned working those additional 4 hours. Shame on you for trying to get ahead. We've got our eye on you mister. Next week you better be back to only 40 hours."
If you're barely scraping by, the default tendency should be to try to improve your situation by cutting back on spending, delaying some financial burdens (having kids, buying a house, buying a fancy new car or a big screen TV), looking for a higher paying job, increasing your skill set, etc. The default answer should not be to simply do nothing and complain to your Congressman that he should raises taxes on the rich.
If you think rich people are rich because they've worked a 44 hour week, and poor people are poor because they've only worked 36, you clearly don't live in the US. The fact is, children born in to poor families in this country overwhelmingly stay poor. Would you explain this by saying that children born to poor families are dumb or lazy? Children born poor have to work significantly harder than their rich peers in order to accomplish the same things. Maybe you think this is fair. Maybe you also think that we should abolish the ADA because being disabled is no excuse for not walking up stairs, and rewarding handicapped people only encourages everyone else to injure themselves.
The Judge is not arguing for socialist wealth redistribution. He's only asking for a level playing field, so that everyone can succeed based on their merits, not on their birth. Much of the inequality comes not from difference in work ethic or intelligence, but from the income level of your parents, and from the fact that our society makes it easy for rich people to stay rich. People who benefit more from society should pay more.
Consider this: "Almost a third of the Forbes 400 richest people were born onto that list", "Another quarter inherited a small business, oil lands, or perhaps had well-to-do parents able to provide an expensive education and family friends helpful in a business career." [source]
Clearly, it takes a lot more than just a strong work ethic to make it to the Forbes list.
From the same article:
"Society is responsible for a very significant percentage of what I've earned," Warren Buffet, the wealthy founder of Berkshire Hathaway, has said.
"Lots of people who are smart and work hard and play by the rules don't have a fraction of what I have," Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, told Forbes Magazine in 2001. "I realize I don't have my wealth because I am so brilliant."
Also of interest are some statistics from this article:
Referring to men born in the 60's, studied in the 90's:
"Only 14% of the men born to fathers on the bottom 10% of the wage ladder made it to the top 30%. Only 17% of the men born to fathers on the top 10% fell to the bottom 30%."
There's a lot of interesting material in both those articles, but it would best if you read them rather than my excerpts. Also, search this blog for the phrase "cost to be poor" for more info.
First off, I never claimed that simply working 44 hours instead of 36 hours a week was the singular way to go from rags to riches. It is simply one decision a person can choose to make though in order to better his position (I pointed out many others, and obviously I wasn't trying to list every single possibility). Furthermore, in the section where I was talking about working a 44 hour week, it was simply to say that I think it's inherently bad for a society to send the message, "The more you achieve, the more we're going to take away" ...and not just more in a proportional sense, but rather in an increasing percentage sense.
Yes, I think we should abolish the ADA because clearly choosing to do nothing to advance your career is analogous to cutting off your leg.
"Staying rich" is not the issue... I was not talking about that. I was not talking about trust fund babies. And I was not talking about a Senator's or CEO's son who had some strings pulled to get a high paying job. I was talking about one's own choices affecting one's ability to earn and save one's own money.
Warren Buffet's quote is nothing earth shattering. If you're creating a product or service you obviously need society to consume it in order to make any money; no rocket science there.
The second article isn't really as valuable as seeing the actual study results would be. There's no way to know what selection criteria the author used when plucking items from the study to support his argument. And as for countering my argument it offers zero insight into the individual choices or even trends in choices made by the various groups in the study.
The article also points out that the study did not include results from the immigrant population. I bring that up because I bet you'd find their higher success rate at climbing up the latter rooted in the fact that there is likely more pressure to succeed combined with having not already accepeted as a foregone conclusion since their parents were poor, they are destined to be poor too.
However, there is one item from the article that I will agree could be largely influential, and that is having educated parents, or parents who at least value and push education on their children will often result in more successful children.
I'm all for improving the education system of the country, pro-actively enforcing truancy laws, and enforcing some national common criteria rather than letting parents pick and choose what they think their children should be exposed to. One place to start in respect to the current topic would be making personal finance a mandatory part of the curriculum in our public school systems.
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